Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Corranga » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:09 am

I thought I'd start a bit of a diary on the running of my S2, though how much I'll stick with it, who knows, but I don't want to take over the post your Porsche thread too much!!

My plan for this is to be a bit of a cost diary, along with the work done, combined with my enjoyment of the car, possibly including routes etc.

First a brief bit of background on me.
I own too many cars - 4 in the family - and I don't drive them enough.
The 944 is my first Porsche, and the most powerful car I've owned, though not my first sports car, nor RWD car.
I also own an S1 Elise, and have done for 7 years. At this point in my life (32) I don't see me ever selling it, and is only used for fun stuff.

Between my wife and I, we have owned some interesting cars, and some regular snore boxes.
In the past we've had 3 classic Minis, 2 Mk1 Mx5, a Vx220, a Seat Leon Cupra.
Completing my stable at the moment is a diesel Alfa 159 - family wagon, and a Panda 100hp which is my regular commuter as well as another fun car.
I'm not going into the snore boxes ;)

So, the 944..
It's a 1989 944 S2, bought with 150.5k miles on the clock, and a near to full service history.
I don't know what my plan is for the car, I'm just going to enjoy it for now.

I don't plan to make this a budget project, but thought I'd keep a list of costs required (maybe excluding stuff I buy because I want it..) excluding fuel, tax etc..

So, it cost me £2,959 in a private sale, which sounds odd, but...
The owner gave me £1 for the parking meter by his house
£40 of the £3,000 I gave him, he kindly used to put fuel in it, which I forgot to give him back when I collected the car later - sorry! :oops:

It was bought new in Perth, lived in Aberdeen for a while, then Edinburgh and now Dundee, so has a local accent ;)

Immediately obvious faults are limited to rust, a non-functioning heated rear window, and the leather parting from the steering wheel.
It come with 2 spare rust free (but slightly dented) doors.

So far I've had to re-glue and stitch the steering wheel. I used thick waxed thread and needles and leather glue from eBay - £1.99 glue, 2.99 thread and needles.

I then discovered the clutch had no rubber grip on it, meaning my foot slipped off when wet, so a pair of mk2 Golf pedal rubbers were bought from eBay to, £2.99

The drivers headlight bulb went (so I thought) I changed it (what a PITA that is...!) and it still didn't work.
I discovered the plastic adjusters are brittle and cracked so bought some of those too - £3.65

The light functioned after a slight mess about with the connector, but they still look a bit crap, so I might need to look at the relay wiring mod.
The steering wheel looks great, but is sticky, Google suggests washing with fairy since it's a de-greaser so I might try that, possibly followed by a re-dye/paint if I can ever figure out which shade of blue leather it is!

Running total:
£2970.62
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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Corranga » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:13 am

Oh, another quick cost related post, since it's 25 years old (maybe?) I had it insured on a classic car policy for a meagre £175.
That's with 5k miles, garaged, with commuting use, and 0 no claims - declared on another car, and apparently makes no difference to classic car policies anyway.

Honestly, this is not turning into a budget project! :roll:

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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby OlberJ » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:11 pm

I drove my first S2 not that long ago and was really impressed with the amount of go on tap.

With fully set up suspension I don't think you need much more from an all rounder.

Love the looks 8-)
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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Corranga » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:36 pm

My local friendly mechanic has already pointed out that I should have the geometry properly set, which gives him an excuse to use his expensive top spec Hunter laser equipment :lol:
I'll have to find some forums with recommendations for where to start, especially with what I think might be larger than standard wheels on the car.

So, going back a couple of weeks, my wife and I took the car out for a little run. We were restricted on time, so opted to head towards Glenshee, up the A93 through Bridge of Cally like this:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Dundee,+Dundee+City,+UK/56.8589273,-3.4260054/@56.8286701,-3.4429856,23070m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x48864144ab639cd3:0x94e43b1e384be52a!2m2!1d-2.970721!2d56.462018!1m0!3e0

This is a road I'm pretty familiar with as my most common run out is the same route, and on to Tomintoul where I can stop for a roll and an ice cream ;)
before heading back down and either around Cairn O Mount, or just a full opposite direction run.

The car was well behaved, providing ample performance for her liking, and mine when starting to exploit the >4k rev range, though I was struggling at that time with the slippy pedal. Compared to my Elise (and 100hp Panda) it was much more relaxed, and provided a different kind of fun.
I drove up, and she drove back, in the middle we removed the HUGE sunroof which gives the car a new dimension. It doesn't quite feel like a convertible, but the ability to be warm and incredibly comfy (in 25 year old seats!) was refreshing.

The only thing that I didn't really get on with was the car feeling pretty unsettled over road which undulates and turns at the same time, when the rear end felt a little out of sorts. I'd imagine this is to do with the suspension layout / weight / wheelbase / not being an Elise, and the A93 is pretty extreme when it comes to this too.

On the whole, we were both very impressed at how capable the car was when pushing on a little, whilst still providing a great GT cruising ability on straighter dual carriageways.
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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Angelus » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:17 pm

I've got a spare steering wheel and boss somewhere in the shed, if you want to change?its a wee sporty red one if I remember correctly. As for forums, try www.forums.tipec.net for 944 info.
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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Corranga » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:28 pm

My steering wheel is getting there. I cleaned / degreased it using fairy washing up liquid, it's now more like a dark blue wheel with a suede rim ;)
I think I'm going to try one of those leather dye / paint kits from eBay, with some fine grain sand paper to smooth it out a bit. What's the worst that can happen? :lol:

Anyway, it's been a while since I updated..

2 or 3 weeks back, I had a Friday morning meeting in Edinbugh at the Gyle, so I took the 944. Meeting finished around 2pm, and I hit the road, heading south and into the borders.

This is approx my route

Nice to pick up some nice roads somewhere else in the country for a change, before the trudge back up to Dundee. Car was great, I really enjoyed it

Fast forward to today, and I found myself heading towards Glenshee AGAIN. We made it up as far as Braemar today, with my wife crammed in the back, and my 9 month baby girl tucket up in her car seat in the front. It was great to get out for the day with the family, and get some nice photos of my little girl. I think back in 1989 there couldn't have been many cars that would suit my usage today use better than a 944, and I'm happy to say that 25 years on, it's still holding up well :)
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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Corranga » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:37 am

Ok, so it's been a while since I updated this :lol:

I decided to leave the 944 as it was for the start of this year as I was spending most of my time rebuilding my Elise suspension, replacing the gearbox, redoing the cooling system with a new rad, hoses, remote thermostat etc. so the Porsche was the fun car through the winter and up to early June. I used it a fair bit for commuting, and the occasional run out when I needed a break from the Lotus.
I had a phenomenal run up to Tomintoul on Easter Sunday, the road was very quiet, and it was such a hot day, great to get the roof panel out.

Then disaster struck.. In mid May, I realised it was running a little low on oil, so topped it up but started to keep a closer eye on things. Then I found the dreaded mayo in the coolant, and on closer inspection the bottom of the very long dip stick tube :(
I then discovered a sort of expanded and split tiny coolant hose at the front of the engine with mayo seeping out.
Who'd have thought with a K Series Rover in the garage, it'd be the Porsche that suffers HGF.

My biggest concern was that it'd been done before as one of the many receipts I got with the car was from a Porsche specialist for repairing the cylinder head near cylinder 1 in 2012, so I started to worry about tolerances and skimming, and what else might be wrong.

I dropped the car at my local trusted indy who whipped the head off for a look. Apparently there was no evidence of a repair at all (I guess the repair could have been really good?) and the head looked like it'd been roughed up with emery paper and not skimmed.

He's pretty busy and it was squeezed in as a long term job, so I expect it back in the next couple of weeks. On the plus side, my Lotus feels amazing ;)
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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Angelus » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:45 am

I've not heard of many with the HGF? the Mayo is usually as a result of the temp difference in the engine, which causes the oil and water to ix and separate. Did it use much oil? Glad it's being looked at and it's good practice to do the water pump and belts while it's stripped. :D

You'll not be making Porsche in the Glen this year?
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Re: Poverty Porsche - My 944 S2

Postby Corranga » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:01 pm

The oil was pretty low on the dipstick after about 4 weeks of use without checking. We managed to get a litre and a half of oil in.
It was getting through water at a higher rate.

The header tank was properly full of mayo as well. My mechanic friend thinks that it may have gone due to the head not being properly smooth (emery paper marks) when it was last put back together.

Either way, it'll be good to know it's been done well, and the belts replaced.

I thought Porsche In The Glen had passed :/ I'll come if it's back in one piece by then.
My mechanic says it'll be done prior to the following weekend as he's off the Monza for the F1 and doesn't want it in his hair when he comes back :lol:
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