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Today's topic of discussion : With all these companies making new cars out of "old stock", for example Singer etc. Does the original car's history have any bearing whatsoever on the value post re-imagination?

Or is it just a new car and valued as such?

Would you have any concerns if the old shell had done 200k miles or 20k miles?

If it's original, mileage is pretty much everything. If it's not original, does no one care?

That's my thought from the bog today.

Olie
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Miles is such a poor marker for a cars history really. Especially the chassis condition. I’m much more interested in how it has been maintained and used. Unfortunately the market doesn’t work that way really.

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Have you guys seen the new Integrale. 20 cars being made...price tag of almost £200k.

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Body condition is a major factor but service history is everything. I know some modern cars have 18000 miles between services, stupidity!

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If it’s gone right through to the extent that Singer/Paul Stephen/Eagle do then what they started with is less relevant as originality is long gone so mileage is only to do with whether it’s going to let you down. If it’s had engine rebuild, gearbox refresh and new everything else then the mileage doesn’t matter. If it’s a more cosmetic re-imagining then the mileage on the oily bits remains very important to me.

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I think nostalgia will be a reason for people buying the car and that will affect the selling price to some degree, but I wouldn’t imagine that it would hold a huge value in premium. There has to be some form of emotional link otherwise people would simply ignore them, especially when you consider the point you raise regarding wear and tear etc. If someone did this with a bog standard 1980s Rover very few people would be attracted to them, but do it with a Jaguar E type and you’ve got a waiting list.

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Pretty much think it’s a blank slate so history is less important. May be a factor if it has had a previous famous owner or some other sort of unusual story, mind you cars like that tend to remain largely standard. What I do know is that the Singer cars for instance are sensational pieces of engineering/art and it’s clear a lot of love and effort goes into each one.

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THey're new cars regardless of what they're based on.

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Current dilemma....

Your 2018 racing budget evaporated some time ago, the season is over, the car is in one piece, you're miles behind with a hundred things at home and then.....
....you find out that there is a place available for a race at Spa at the weekend and your upgrade to 310R spec will be completed in time for the car to squeeze onto the truck.

Do you...
a) enter full ludicrous-man-maths mode and decide which precious thing you will sell to fund this madness
b) forget all about it and give the Defender cross member another coat of POR15
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Current dilemma....

Your 2018 racing budget evaporated some time ago, the season is over, the car is in one piece, youre miles behind with a hundred things at home and then.....
....you find out that there is a place available for a race at Spa at the weekend and your upgrade to 310R spec will be completed in time for the car to squeeze onto the truck.

Do you...
a) enter full ludicrous-man-maths mode and decide which precious thing you will sell to fund this madness
b) forget all about it and give the Defender cross member another coat of POR15
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....and we’re off. Ludicrous man maths is powerful stuff!

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Do it, you think when you're old and look back at your life you'll be happy you decided not to do it? 😉

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See you there! John, you know we share the same man-maths approach...

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Definitely Spa, although the unprotected rear crossmember will have rusted to dust over a weekend....... You can then spend the offseason moving all components onto a galvanised chassis 😉 Enjoy Spa!

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Your writing this from Spa, aren’t you ?

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Let us know how the waffles were!

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I’m surprised the dilemma lasted long enough for you to remember it was ever a dilemma. Engine upgraded, LSD built and installed. Dale, Darren and James the caped crusaders see to it.

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b) Cause you'll just be making the rest of us all jealous.

2 days ago
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Why is this even a question?? Go live your life man on that awesome piece of tarmac!!

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This is not a dress rehearsal. Just go for it. 👍👍👍

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You’ve not listed a kidney yet for sale and on way 😂?

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Are you getting a full body massage 💆‍♂️ followed by facial at the Spa?

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No brainer ..... enjoy spa 🤣🤣🏎🏎

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Man-maths lol, the force is strong: the Sig. of the PV of the cost versus the FV of all racing cost spent = <> a small % 🙂

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This isn't even a question, the Answer is A all the way!!!

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Life is racing, everything else is waiting

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C. Go to Spa then give Defender another coat of POR15. Both bases covered. Max profit guaranteed

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That's what credit cards are for 🤷‍♂️

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I’ll fund you a 10% markup on some difficult to get Belgian beer to bring home!

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There is only one option and that's going to Spa!

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I’m over next week Mon-Tuesday, will you be there already?

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You only need one kidney.. . 🙂

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c) Go to Spa, and pop over to the ring for a couple

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You've got to go to spa without a doubt 😍😍

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Is the cat loaded on the trailer yet 😂😂

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Andy Matthews, I still can’t afford the Lego one either 😂😂

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Had mine for about 2year 😎

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Tickets arrived for the Lotus 70th birthday party at the factory 👍

Mike.
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Tickets arrived for the Lotus 70th birthday party at the factory 👍

Mike.

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What time you picking me up?

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What an experience! Enjoy!

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That should have been on the bucket list! Mega.

6 days ago
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Lucky gits!

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That artwork is fabulous.

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Tartan Tarmac added 18 new photos — in East Fortune.

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Some highlights from yesterdays The Supercar Social meet, it was a fun drive across with the guys from Scottish M too.

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No more photos 🤷🏻‍♂️

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